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First of all, you have to give up all hope of ever getting laid again. Then, you have to conclude that its because you're the ugliest son of a gun on the planet. Further, that even the ugliest daughter of a gun on the planet wouldn't give you the time of day.
Once your certain that you're not worth anyone's time, any time spent on you by a super hot babe gets you all excited and catapults you into horn dogishness.
Smile all the time. It helps if you have an unattractive characteristic. Like me, for example, I have huge spaces between my incisors. It gets a girl's attention faster than the best cologne.
Always speak on something about the girl within moments of catching her attention. She has to notice you too, and you of her at the same time. Smile first, then speak on something, even if it's just "what's your name?", or "what did you do today?" (works even if she doesn't know you from adam)
Avoid approaching (physically) her. Allow her to approach you (or entirce her to, invite her). That is 'The First Submission'. You'll learn the difference between 'The First Submissions', and "Under Laying for Over Playing" which I call "Fucking Dick Teasing Me You God Damned Crack Whore Piece of Shit".
Dont have any goal in mind. Remember, you're too ugly for her (since you're too ugly for the most not-hot babe, that would include her too). The "Right Chick" will always misinterpret your unguided amibiguity as indifference, and they always percieve indifference as confidence. Women don't generally like pity dates. Also, if you are trully indifferent already, then non of this is necessary because you wouldn't care if you got hummed down or not. So don't shoot for indifference, shoot for ambiguity.
Use "Fake-Out Phrases". These are phrase that you practice in private to use whenever you run out of something to say. Some of my favorites are (not limited to):
1-What are you talking about *Blank*. Where blank is whatever she just said. If she says, "I live with my boy friend," I respond, "What do you mean you live with your boyfriend?". Then, no matter what she says, I respond with "So how is that working out for you?" or "Is that working out okay for you?" If she's the Right Chick, she'll take the opportunity to boy friend bash.
Remember, fake-out phrases are to get her talking. the content of the conversation doesn't matter, hence "Fake-Out". If she's not interested in you (using whatever the hell critieria women use) she won't talk. If she's interested in you, she still might not talk to you. But if she does talk to you behind Fake-Outs (meaning after you've used them), she's definately interested in some degree
2-Everything's super cool!- You can throw this baby in anywhere, anytime. But, it might need support from a follow up, or serve as a follow up. Personalize it. The more a woman hears your voice (and with fake-outs, you're not really saying anything), the more comfortable she becomes with you.
3-I don't think this conversation is working out? (sarcastically spoken, let her know you're kidding and it invites her to kid with you, or bail)
4-Do you think this converstation is working out? (another check point)
5-What do you think about me? (variations are:Is your boyfriend cuter than me? Do you like my vibe? etc)
6-Are you in a good mood? (ask anytime, anywhere, to any girl, no matter how long you've known her. That includes being the first thing you say to her...of course within the three seconds after you've noticed each other. Even through it in as an interuption of her speaking.)
Again, fake-out are just filler. We do them all day anyway. "How are you today?", "Fine, and you?" Nobody really cares how you are doing, nor do they want to hear how you are doing. But ask someone "Are you in a good mood?" And they will think you really care.
Always touch any part of her body that nears you. Normally, it might be the hands as she's speaking. Prep her by asking if her nails are real (how this is asked depends on the girl. in my experience white women don't mind being asked str8 forward if they are real nails, but don't respond well to "are those your nails". Black women, or urban cultured women respond better to "where do get your nails done".)
Don't ask to touch after the nail gambit (or whatever touch-prep you use). Gently grab the hand, then the wrist just below the hand (with your other hand) and evaluate her. Does she keep talking, or make an issue out of her nails. Have you non-verbally directed her topic, or did she barely notice you touching her? Both are totally good responses, but you need to know if she is a directable chick, or one that's totally open to being touched in that way. Believe it or not, the ones that are totally open to being touched, are more likely to thwart your efforts at getting in her panties.
with the hand gambit, (one form of touching) you can easily manipulate your hands (yours and hers) into a boyfriend/girlfriend type of hand holding. That's why the wrist hold is important. It allows your other hand, the one touching her hand, to work into position and blocks her mentality. Or, it disqualifies her as the "Right Chick". You can rub then, hold them up to compare finger length or whatever. Of course at some point you'll have to trust her, and let her wrist go (unless your sitting, where rubbing her arm might be possible).
So now, you're holding hands with her like you're her boyfriend and you just met her like what...five minutes ago?
There are several other touchings that can be done in case the hand gambit doesn't work. No time to tell them now. I'm sure your questions will bring some out anyway.
A great follow up to touching (hand gambit or other wise) is to ask if she believes in reading other people's thoughts and feelings (never say "reading minds") through touching them.
If you've gotten to touch a girl the first time you've met her, then it's time to tell her how hot she is. Use obscure combinations like; Super babe, super hot, look outta sight, smoking hot. She'll think you're corny as hell.
If you've gotten this far, you probably think I'm full of crap. And I am. Any questions?
Ya know coming from just a point where I was thinking ... wow ya know sex is always on my mind at the drop of a hat yet women bitch cause are never romantic yet all we want to do is be with them. Be touched by them. Smell their perfume.... etc. Yet I get Shatzy response and though I understand all of that (or I try to) that just made me want to run and hide for it makes it all to clinical. ICK And then Omar here writes a book on how to get into a womans panties. DAMN man you really should write a book, I think you got something going there. Well, at least it is better then the Man is from Mars crap. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
Anyhow... what my main guess is here is I dont need to know how to get into their panties, and I dont need to know why they wont let me into their panties. Though both were helpful and fun to read.... for once GT was more so on track with what I was looking for by saying I just want to know am I looking at it in a twisted view or do women really look at us and SAY I WANT HIM NOW!! and wish we would act on it though when we look at them we think "HMMM SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE IS CONCENTRATING... Must be Deciding what color to paint her nails. And we move on or Do they really act on it and we are just seeing suttle moves and brush them off like high school crushes. You know where a girl giggles and we are embarssed and do the eye roll thing and run out of the room.
I just wanna know why a women never just reaches out and ZIP ... here let me have that. [img]graemlins/devil.gif[/img] GIGGLE
You know a guy would and does often. Even if we get shot down we still try. Yet it appears women just sort of are ambivilant to the whole thing. Yet they say they are "senual and sexual " by nature. BAAAAAAH!
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">They do. Those are what I called the "Right Chick". Perhaps, you can make yourself more approachable in that context. Women, nor men simply grab anyone's zipper like that, it's rape or near it. But they do spontaneuously offer sex to men.Quote:
I just wanna know why a women never just reaches out and ZIP ... here let me have that. GIGGLE
It takes a lot of courage for guys to try and close a girl. Remember when we were teens? The anxiety, the intense pondering on how to get laid the first time. For women too, it takes courage. So the easier you make your zipper, the more likely some chick will undo it.
I contend that women are as sexually aggressive as men, from a social context. The only reason I say so, is the exact reason you say nay; because of our experiences. I happen to be sexually passive when I pick up girls (meaning, I let them lead and/or appraoch me). It's my coping mechanism to being shy. So the girls I meet MUST be aggressive, or I wouldn't meet them.
Anyway, thanks for struggling through my hogwash.
personally, i find this thread amusing on a few
different accounts.
however, i'm going to mention just one at the moment.
the issue isn't about whom answered your post
the way you wanted them to -- simply because
that wasn't asked nor implied (it is a BBS,
and everyone voices an opinion).
you merely posed something you were wondering....
and people replied to it.
but, to make it come full-circle....
it was implied that one respond in both
a genuine, honest opinion and still
meet the criteria of opposing perspective.
in short --
you made a rhetorical post.
everyone beyond that point responds as if the
post wasn't rhetorical.
then its declared that the post wasn't rhetorical
but that you were actually looking for
something from your initial post
at which point, all non-rhetorical posts (to a
rhetorical post) are suddenly of value (when
at first they weren't).... and skewed by a biased
perception.
....http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/...oticons/33.gif ...fascinating
**ps.... this post is RHETORICAL... so please,
if you respond to it, make sure you aren't being
a hypocrite (if you can... muuuuuuahahahhaaha)
Hmmm good point... the "So the girls I meet MUST be aggressive, or I wouldn't meet them."
So gettiong back to the original part. If we said NO more often would it hurt or help our cause in getting Tang?
And I never have to wade thru hogwash... I love reading your posts.
Then where is his purple fuzzy hat?
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH just neat... How the hell did this get here when it was suppose to be under the IMP post? HMMMMMMMM !!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRR
<font color="#ffffff" size="1">[ August 20, 2003 09:46 PM: Message edited by: Cyalaytr ]</font>
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">neither. it should only reveal what was previously notedQuote:
Originally posted by Cyalaytr:
So gettiong back to the original part. If we said NO more often would it hurt or help our cause in getting Tang?
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">i see.......Quote:
Originally posted by Cyalaytr:
And I never have to wade thru hogwash... I love reading your posts.
So how do we explain the rise of Bisexuality among women these days?
<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">You're missing the point (no offense). It only matters to WHOM you say no, not IF you say no.Quote:
Originally posted by Cyalaytr:
Hmmm good point... the "So the girls I meet MUST be aggressive, or I wouldn't meet them."
So gettiong back to the original part. If we said NO more often would it hurt or help our cause in getting Tang?
And I never have to wade thru hogwash... I love reading your posts.
So yes, if you say no more often (you're saying no at all now???), it hurts your cause.
If you say NO, however, you're working against your ultimate goal (closing the deal). Yes, women say no, and men keep trying. But when women say no, men 'ought' to stop. Same with men who say no: women 'ought' to stop.
So don't say no. Even to the fat chick.
<font color="#ffffff" size="1">[ August 20, 2003 10:03 PM: Message edited by: Omar de Fati ]</font>